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MTS speed build challenge results - posted on 11th Nov 2018 at 8:38 PM
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Mad Poster
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#1 Old 31st Jul 2018 at 3:21 AM Last edited by GrijzePilion : 31st Jul 2018 at 3:33 AM.
Default What the hell are all these file formats and how do I make them work with TS3?
Hey everyone,

So I don't know the first thing about modding TS2 and I'm hardly an expert on the game itself, but I'll have to get over it because I need some new models for TS3 and I need them soon. I have a computer here and half a dozen Fresh Prince cars, and I'd like to start with one or two of the cars. I've already gotten a few pointers in another thread I made, and if I weren't so damn sleep deprived I'm sure I knew where to find it, but I'm still horribly lost as to what the textures are, what the meshes are, and how the hell I'm going to get these file formats I've never heard of to work with tools I HAVE heard of. I'm sure it's really simple.

I'm a bit torn between getting this stuff done, making some progress, getting somewhere, improving my game environment and creating a better 1980s Bridgeport piece by piece, or going back to binge watching Miami Vice and pretending it has something to do with the whole deal.

What I'd like to know is:
What assets do I need to export from my cloned object in SimPE?
How do I read and open these assets, and convert them to a format I can use?
What manual adjustments do I need to make for an object to be compatible with TS3?
What do I need to do in terms of scripting?

Thanks

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#2 Old 31st Jul 2018 at 5:42 AM
You might have better luck asking over in the modding forums: http://modthesims.info/forumdisplay.php?f=555

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#3 Old 31st Jul 2018 at 11:02 AM
You'd probably do well to have a look at a 2t3 conversion tutorial: http://www.digitalperversion.net/ga...p?topic=22146.0 I've never attempted to do such a conversion, and don't have the TS3 Workshop thingy, myself, so beyond pointing you at a tute, I can't be of any further help.

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#4 Old 31st Jul 2018 at 12:30 PM
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#5 Old 31st Jul 2018 at 4:06 PM
Okay that tutorial seems doable, but I've run into a few issues:

The "List" tab is nowhere to be found in SimPE, nor is basically everything else.
The names of the textures, as well as the model assets, suggest that they are not what I'm looking for.
Since I cannot find the "List" tab, I export directly from the "Resource List". The textures are in the 6tx format and come with an XML attached, while the model files are in the 5gd format and also come with an XML.
The TSRW Object format is nowhere to be found in Milkshape.

And for a bit of pure theory:

Both the cars and the computer will contain moving parts which are not used in TS3. This is additional data that I'll need to discard. I assume these will be separate parts of the mesh, assigned to separate groups or whatever? Sounds like more than enough to make my life needlessly difficult.

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#6 Old 31st Jul 2018 at 5:48 PM
When I convert stuff from TS2 to TS3 the only things I really need are the LIFO files (Which are the texture files but 1024x1024, rather than the default 512x512 or even 256x256 textures). Exporting the LIFO files is possible. When exporting it, it will just export it into a DDS File.

And the GMDC files which you can export an obj file from the 3D window in SimPE.

Depending on whether you have the UC (ultimate collection) or the non-UC, if you're looking for a EP/SP mesh, you have to navigate to that folder. I wouldn't suggest using SimPE's object workshop though, that one seems to show only 20% of the objects you might wanna have.

I might update it later to give you the specific packages to find the meshes and textures though
Mad Poster
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#7 Old 31st Jul 2018 at 6:41 PM
Well I don't know what I exactly did but I managed to get into "Plugin View" where I could export my assets in the right formats. I have my car model, and I have my textures. Something tells me this is going to be easier than it seems.

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#8 Old 31st Jul 2018 at 6:55 PM
Okay so Milkshape is not giving me any TSRW-related options. I can't import or export WSO files and TSRW is refusing to import any OBJ.

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#9 Old 31st Jul 2018 at 7:08 PM
Okay, let me move it to the sims 3's create forum since I think it first there a bit more Sorry for moving it around this much!

obj for TSRW is actually not a good way of doing it. That's because we need bones to begin with to import... a second error could be due to the groups... not sure what error you're getting?

Regarding no export options... you're sure you did this right?: http://wiki.thesimsresource.com/ind...le=Milkshape_3D
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#10 Old 31st Jul 2018 at 8:18 PM
I might very well, theoretically speaking, have forgotten to move those files into the correct folder, yes.

Now I have the car and all its groups and textures in Milkshape and it's looking damn good, Thing is, I have the plugins and they're in the right folder, but they're still not showing up.

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#11 Old 4th Aug 2018 at 3:41 PM
So where do I go from here?

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#12 Old 5th Aug 2018 at 12:48 PM
Hrm it should just show up? It would be weird if they didn't. You didn't just add a folder in there right? But actually dumped the DLL files in the Milkshape 1.8.5 folder? Also make sure you have the Milkshape 1.8.5 (Stated as BETA) NOT the Milkshape 1.8.4 version
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#13 Old 5th Aug 2018 at 2:02 PM Last edited by GrijzePilion : 5th Aug 2018 at 2:17 PM.
Yeah, it all checks out. They're finally showing up now, but I'm getting issues with the groups. The TS3 mesh I use as a base has 1 group; my own mesh has 7. TSRW expects the amount of groups to be identical to the original. I don't think that's possible though, because the mesh has multiple materials.

EDIT: I've tried again with another model entirely, a PC instead of a car, and it worked just fine. That's great, but it doesn't solve my groups issue quite yet.

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#14 Old 5th Aug 2018 at 6:27 PM
Okay so I'm having a problem where SimPE will not export textures larger than 64x64. Compare TS3's low-quality model with okay quality textures to TS2's high-quality model with awful textures. I believe the texture resolution here should be 256x256, not 64x64.

I'll need to fix those textures, and I'm going to modify the mesh a bit to make the PC look somewhat older, and then I'll have a damn fine PC model that's going to look a whole lot more convincing than TS3's default one.

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#15 Old 6th Aug 2018 at 6:42 AM
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#16 Old 14th Aug 2018 at 3:14 AM
Not sure what's going on here but this car's really really bright. And how come I can only assign one texture for the whole model in the Mesh tab? I have an exterior texture, an interior texture and a texture for the chrome accents. I don't know how to assign all three.







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#17 Old 22nd Aug 2018 at 1:36 PM
*bumps*

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#18 Old 23rd Aug 2018 at 10:08 PM
Use overlay textures for the none castable bits.

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#19 Old 23rd Aug 2018 at 11:32 PM
Oh, right. That makes a whole bunch of sense, yeah. But what if I need multiple overlay textures?

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#20 Old 24th Aug 2018 at 4:18 PM
It's a long time since I made anything for sims3, but one of the things I did make was a car. What I did was, I put the chrome textures on an overlay and I combined the two textures, inside and outside, onto one castable texture and then remapped the uvmaps, this is not a large task, it's just a case of scaling the existing UV maps. The downside of this is that the interior of the car looked a bit plastic. The seat textures had an odd shine, and I didn't mind enough to fix it. What I did see is a lot of cars have the car glass very tinted to reduce how noticeable this is. What you can do, is try cracking open an existing car and see how they did it.

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#21 Old 24th Aug 2018 at 4:49 PM
I can make that work. It's more time consuming than I'd hoped, but it sounds straightforward enough. What concerns me is the material issue, like you mentioned. The game will almost certainly find a way to misinterpret this texture work into something hideous, and as you can see in the screenshot above, it's not exactly normal-looking to begin with. And when a car model's only task is to look pretty......

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#22 Old 24th Aug 2018 at 6:52 PM
It's the specular /multiplier that is making that shine. You need to use the right alphas/colours.

http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Sims_3:0x00B2D882

http://wiki.thesimsresource.com/ind...?title=Specular

http://wiki.thesimsresource.com/ind..._too_dark/light

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